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Oral history interview processed in Spring 2014; Audio quality might be poor.


3:09 Early childhood;4:04 Education prior to entering the military; 4:15 How he ended up in the Marine Corps; 5:08 How he enlisted and the draft situation at the time; 6:22 Starting as a fighter pilot; 7:03 Being a flight instructor in Pensacola; 7:28 Working on the F-35 program and how that led to working at Lockheed; 8:00 First days in the service; 8:43 The adaptive nature of the Marine Corps; 9:33 Initial training; 13:01 Advanced training; 14:23 Places he was stationed; 15:05 Stationed first in El Toro, California; 15:23 Experience with the Iranian hostage issue; 16:30 First impressions of El Toro, California; 18:01 Assignment in El Toro, California; 18:30 Barter system on ships and where he got the nickname "Pack-Rat"; 20:20 Typical day in El Toro, California; 21:30 Relationship with other soldiers in unit; 22:13 Going to the club; 22:58 Most memorable experience in El Toro, California; 24:29 Assignment in Washington, D. C. and more on relationships with other marines and pilots; 26:43 Experience in National War College and Joint Strike Fighter Program; 27:17 Typical day in Washington, D. C. and being stationed there for 9 years; 28:48 Why you can't fall in love with your own work in D. C.; 29:25 Commute and working with various time zones; 30:50 Remaining in contact with family; 31:41 His assessment on his training; 32:18 Entertainment during down-time; 33:26 Shenanigans he and his friends would get into; 34:40 Retiring from the military and transition to Lockheed Martin; 37:14 Medals and accolades and their impact on marines; 38:44 Highest rank and his activities after leaving the marines; 40:00 Creating a learning environment; 41:45 Remaining in touch with the people with whom he served; 42:47 Transitioning to civilian life; 44:08 Reflection on his service;46:59 Discusses how students today have many opportunities, and how they need to experience a variety of areas to find their own way.

Date of Birth


Place of Birth

Camp Lejeune (N.C.)




White - Non Hispanic

Home State

North Carolina

War or Conflict

Persian Gulf War



Begin/End date of Service - 1st



Audio; Sound


Entrance into Service


Branch of Service

U.S. Marines

Unit of Service

VT-23; VT-25; VMFAT-101; VMFA-314; VMFA-531; CV-43; VT-4; VFA-106; VMFA-251; MAWTS-1; VMFA-321; MAG-49A; VMFA-112; MAG-41

Location of Service


Highest Rank

Lieutenant Colonel; LtCol

Prisoner of War


Service Related Injury



Desert One; Iranian Hostage Attempt, 1980; Desert Storm: Liberation of Kuwait; Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF), 2002


Defense Superior Service Medal; Legion of Merit; Air Medal; Meritorious Service Medal; Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal; Joint Meritorious Unit Award; Navy Unit Commendation Ribbon; Navy and Marine Corps Meritorious Unit Commendation; Southwest Asia Service Medal; Marine Corps Expeditionary Medal; Navy Sea Service Deployment Ribbon; Kuwait Liberation Medal


F-4 pilot; Graduate, Top Gun; Graduate, marine Corps Weapons and Tactics Course; Advanced Jet Pilot Instructor; FA-18 Pilot; Operations Officer, MAWTS-1; Commanding Officer, MAG-49A; Graduate, National War College; Requirements Officer, JSF Program; Commanding Officer, MAG-41


NROTC Graduate of Oregon State University, 1975; Member, sigma Chi Fraternity; Naval Fighter Weapons School (Top Gun) Graduate, 1981; Marine Corps Weapon and Tactics Instructor Course (WTI) Graduate, 1982; Masters in National Security Strategy, National War College, 1997; F-4 Pilot, USMC, 1978-1982; TA_4J instructor Pilot, 1982-1986; FA-18 Pilot, USMC, 1986-2004

City of Birth

Camp Lejeune

Country of Birth

United States


Jolly, Sarah

Interview Date



Packard, Richard J.; Persian Gulf War Era, 1990-2003 -- Personal Narratives; United States. Marine Corps

Collection Description

Contains logs, audio and video recordings of interviews with Central Florida's veterans as part of a history class project for the students at the University of Central Florida (UCF). The UCF Community Veterans History Project(CVHP) started in fall 2010. It collects, preserves, and makes accessible to the public the experiences of Central Florida's veterans so that future generations will better understand the realities of conflict. It is a collaborative endeavor supported by multiple departments and offices at UCF. The veterans' histories are archived and made digitally available through the UCF library and selected materials are contributed to the Veterans History Project at the Library of Congress.

Contributor Affiliation / Organization

RICHES; University of Central Florida


Jolly, Sarah

Length of Interview

51 Minutes


Department of History, University of Central Florida




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University of Central Florida Libraries, Special Collections and University Archives

Contributing Project

UCF Community Veterans History Project

Document Type